[Chugalug] gedit vs geany

Ed King chevyiinova at bellsouth.net
Wed Dec 19 19:14:26 UTC 2012

wow...   the last time I saw a file format that bad is when I worked for the 

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"kitepilot at kitepilot.com" <kitepilot at kitepilot.com>
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Subject: Re: [Chugalug] gedit vs geany

Do I have an interesting set of regexp problems for you !!!

I have a 6600 line handmade ancestor file into which inevitably inconsistencies 
have creeped, and I want to curry it. This BEGS for regexp action, rather than 
what I could do if necessary: an ab initio C or python prog for each thing I 
want to do with it that is too time-consuming for hand work.

The file has been copied to http://chatta.us/gnotes . The first field is my 
version of an integer 0-v are base 32, wxyz are base 4, and @^ are base 2, and 
the thing grows on the right, and the leading 1 of it in binary is ommitted.

AFter generation 20 or so, you run into '((' things, which are to deal with 
multiple descent from the same person.

After about generation 23 or so, it becomes so hard to hand curry that I 
haven't, and relevant regex insights and perl/python/whatever using those would 
be SO welcome, if anyone happens to be in the mood to share some.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:15:24 -0500
    From: "kitepilot at kitepilot.com" <kitepilot at kitepilot.com>
Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <chugalug at chugalug.org>
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] gedit vs geany
      To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <chugalug at chugalug.org>

> There is another thing for Vim (vi is ANOTHER can of worms!):
> regular expressions. It took me a while (LONG while) to decide to face the 
>regexp dragon, but now that I can sort-of put together some of them, my only 
>regret is:
> WHY DIDN'T I TRY SOONER!? You can do unbelievable powerful magic with regexps, 
>and once you go regexp, you'll LOVE! Vim (and sed and grep). Regular expressions 
>are not easy, but they are not impossible.
> All it takes is a commitment to ask, when facing some boring single-pattern 
>multiple-lines change:
> how do I regxep this?
> Then you find one solution.
> And another.
> And another one!
> And (oh boy) yo begin smiling and thinking "this is *SOOOO KEWL!!!*"  :)
> Try it, you won't regret it. If you want to try regexps and you are (like me) 
>lazy, feel free to send me an email asking how to regexp something and I'll give 
>it a shot.  I'll send you back the regexp plus the explanation of how it works. 
>No, I am neither that helpful nor that wizard.
> It has become now a (sometimes) entertaining challenge to regexp stuff and the 
>more I try the more I learn.  Feel free to send me Vim questions too.
> Back when I began learning vi in 1996 (I'm still learning), there was a guy in 
>the office that had an answer at his fingertips just about every-time.  Made 
>learning vi enjoyable as opposite as frustrating.  And I can certainly learn (or 
>challenge my knowledge) with your questions.
> ET PS: If you send me a specific question, make sure that you send it to my 
>address, sometimes I overlook messages in the list. David Ingram writes:
>> I have recently been reading a good book about vim called Practical Vim. If
>> you want to make the investment in time it will pay dividends. Sublime also
>> has a vim mode for converts as well. For HTML and CSS I am using sublime
>> because out of the box it is setup for that kind of work. Vim can most
>> certainly replicate that, but there is effort required. +1 to all who said you 
>>should at least learn the basics of vim (insert mode
>> and how to save files), it is a must for command line work where you have
>> no choice of editors. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Adam Jimerson 
>><vendion at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You could also go the Jeff Dean,
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Dean_(computer_scientist) route:     Jeff 
>>>Dean escews both Emacs and VI. He types his code into zcat,
>>> because it's faster that way. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Adam Jimerson 
>>><vendion at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> To help learn vim it ships with a teaching aid, vimtutor, that teaching
>>>> the basics (quiting, saving, movement via hjkl, moving by jumping, find,
>>>> find and replace) as well as some more advanced, and very useful, actions
>>>> (jump forward/backwards x number of words, jump to end of line, jump
>>>> to beginning of line, jump to the first character on the line) etc.  There
>>>> is also a browser based game to help learn how to use vim (
>>>> http://vim-adventures.com/), they have the first level free to play then
>>>> it is about $10 for the rest of the levels On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM, 
>>>>DaWorm <daworm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I still haven't figured out how to exit vim when some evil app makes it
>>>>> it's default configuration editor, much less use it to edit something.  It
>>>>> may be the greatest editor of all time, but the learning curve isn't so
>>>>> much of a curve as an insurmountable cliff.  By the time I could figure 
>>>>> how to do something simple in it, I could download and try 20 other
>>>>> editors.  Of course I can't understand regex either, which may be related.
>>>>> My brain isn't quite that symbolic.  Looks like someone hit random number
>>>>> keys with the shift stuck to me.
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