[Chugalug] Richard Stallman and open source

Chad Smith chad78 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 14 23:39:42 UTC 2012


I said - "IF YOU CHOSE TO GIVE IT AWAY" then I could do that.

If you didn't chose to give it away, I couldn't.

It's not hard to understand, seriously.

*- Chad W. Smith*



On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:27 PM, rdflowers <base at chalice.us> wrote:

> But, if I choose to LICENSE my code -- make it conditionally available --
> you would say I have no right to do so? I'm limited to all or nothing,
> accordingly to you? WTF?
>
> If you are allowed to have my code, you can just market it under your
> name, padlocked, no matter what I want? Why on Earth?
>
>
>
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>     Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0600
>
>     From: Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <
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>  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Richard Stallman and open source
>       To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <
> chugalug at chugalug.org>
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>
>  If you share the code, then yes.
>>
>> If you choose to share the code with the world - then I should be able to
>> take that code - change it all or not one bit of data - lock it up, and
>> sell it.
>>
>> The thing is - your free code will still be out there.  Free.  So I would
>> be competing with a no-cost alternative.  If I did not add something of
>> value to it (and that value may only be in branding or advertising) - then
>> it will not sell.  That is how the free market works.
>>
>> If you do not choose to share the code - then I have no right to do what
>> you claimed.  Not under current law.
>>
>> The bogey-man of force you refer to is the desire of RMS.  If you want
>> everything to be open source, and believe anything short of your personal
>> definition of open...er um.. "Free" ... is inherently and demonstratively
>> EVIL - then your desire is that all software was free/open/libre....  And
>> that would mean no programmer would have the choice to do otherwise.  Call
>> that force if you want to. His views limit choice - they, in fact, limit
>> freedom.  If he was given the power/authority to impose his views on
>> others, consumer and programmer choice would suffer.  Innovation would
>> suffer.  If you take away the incentive of money, then the motivation to
>> work is decreased.
>>
>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, rdflowers <base at chalice.us> wrote:
>>
>>  Once again you invoke the very boogy-man of force that you won't defend.
>>>
>>> Exactly WHO does this refer to -- "But I also don't believe anyone should
>>> have to be
>>>
>>>  forced to share what they've done, what they've created if they don't
>>>> want
>>>> to.   ??  WHO ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You mean you should be able to include a copy of my code in a program
>>> with
>>> code you write, and padlock the whole thing, whether I want you to or
>>> not?
>>>
>>> So, if I copied something of yours, added a little, and obfuscated it,
>>> and
>>> gave you no credit or cash -- you'd (1) not object, and (2) believe no
>>> one
>>> should object in such a situation ???
>>>
>>
>>
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