[Chugalug] Richard Stallman and open source
chad78 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 14 23:39:42 UTC 2012
I said - "IF YOU CHOSE TO GIVE IT AWAY" then I could do that.
If you didn't chose to give it away, I couldn't.
It's not hard to understand, seriously.
*- Chad W. Smith*
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:27 PM, rdflowers <base at chalice.us> wrote:
> But, if I choose to LICENSE my code -- make it conditionally available --
> you would say I have no right to do so? I'm limited to all or nothing,
> accordingly to you? WTF?
> If you are allowed to have my code, you can just market it under your
> name, padlocked, no matter what I want? Why on Earth?
> ----- Message from chad78 at gmail.com ---------
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0600
> From: Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com>
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> If you share the code, then yes.
>> If you choose to share the code with the world - then I should be able to
>> take that code - change it all or not one bit of data - lock it up, and
>> sell it.
>> The thing is - your free code will still be out there. Free. So I would
>> be competing with a no-cost alternative. If I did not add something of
>> value to it (and that value may only be in branding or advertising) - then
>> it will not sell. That is how the free market works.
>> If you do not choose to share the code - then I have no right to do what
>> you claimed. Not under current law.
>> The bogey-man of force you refer to is the desire of RMS. If you want
>> everything to be open source, and believe anything short of your personal
>> definition of open...er um.. "Free" ... is inherently and demonstratively
>> EVIL - then your desire is that all software was free/open/libre.... And
>> that would mean no programmer would have the choice to do otherwise. Call
>> that force if you want to. His views limit choice - they, in fact, limit
>> freedom. If he was given the power/authority to impose his views on
>> others, consumer and programmer choice would suffer. Innovation would
>> suffer. If you take away the incentive of money, then the motivation to
>> work is decreased.
>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, rdflowers <base at chalice.us> wrote:
>> Once again you invoke the very boogy-man of force that you won't defend.
>>> Exactly WHO does this refer to -- "But I also don't believe anyone should
>>> have to be
>>> forced to share what they've done, what they've created if they don't
>>>> to. ?? WHO ??
>>> You mean you should be able to include a copy of my code in a program
>>> code you write, and padlock the whole thing, whether I want you to or
>>> So, if I copied something of yours, added a little, and obfuscated it,
>>> gave you no credit or cash -- you'd (1) not object, and (2) believe no
>>> should object in such a situation ???
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