[Chugalug] Linux removes support for 386

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 13 03:13:43 UTC 2012


Because PLCs and many embedded systems don't need power, or even
efficiency. They just need a dirt cheap processor to parse things as they
come along.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:

> But WHY?!?!?
>
> The 486 came out in 1989.  NINETEEN EIGHTY-NINE.  That means before the
> 1990s even started, the 386 was outdated and replaced.  This is over 20
> years after that.  Our $8.99 prepaid cell phones have more processing power
> than that.  It would have to be more expensive to run a 386 for a month
> than to buy a brand new system with more power.  There are $50 tablets with
> more power - and they have WiFi, a touchscreen, and a battery.
>
> So even saying "I already have this system" doesn't mean you are actually
> saving money by using it.  An order-of-magnitudes more powerful system that
> takes less electricity to run would save you money in the long term.  And
> by "long term" I mean a few weeks.
>
> *- Chad W. Smith*
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Chad,
>>
>> There are plenty of 386 based PLCs and embedded systems....
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Some things I just don't understand.
>>>
>>> Like why anyone would be using a 386 in 2013 (which it almost is).  The
>>> "last ones" were made in 2007 - which is about to be 6 years ago - but in
>>> 2007, we already had Core 2 Duos, so I don't know what they were being used
>>> for even then.  386 is an 80s chip!  Unless you got some missions critical
>>> data on a 30 year old computer - (I'm sure I'm looking at you US
>>> Government) - you should not be using a 386 in 2013.  Or 2007.  Or any year
>>> starting with a 2.
>>>
>>> If you do have missions critical stuff on a computer not made
>>> this millennia - start getting it off of there immediately.  What is your
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>
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